The Constitution cannot apply to the U.S.A.

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Geod Manson
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The Constitution cannot apply to the U.S.A.

Post by Geod Manson » Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 am

Since the THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE—1776
IN CONGRESS, JULY4, 1776The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
WHEN in the Course of human events, it be-comes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of man-kind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation...

The people of the to be "United States of America" the thirteen colonies. declared them selves to be free.

The office of President and the office of President of The United States of America, are not just offices that have not been filled, but cannot be filled.

In the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA—1787, the only office of president that is possible to be fulfilled is the office of President of the United States.

The other 2 offices of President cannot be fulfilled because The people of United States of America are free and independent and can only be governed by consent.
Just because the people have been lied to and dumbed down(I was)doesn't take away from us the right to be self governed.

Having a President of The United States of America,would be repugnant to
the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776
The Articles of Confederation November 15, 1777
the Treaty of Paris (1783),
the Resolutions of the 23d of April, 1784
the ORDINANCE OF 1787: THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT and;
the Constitution of the United States of America September 17, 1787. That only applied to the United States.

As I see it the actors who wrote the Constitution were aware of this fact, and George Washington only did what was possible in order to make the ruse work, to take the office of President of the United States, before the other two Presidential offices could be allegedly filled.
If they went by the qualifications within the Constitution.
The other Presidential offices were not possible if they adhered to principles put forth in all the previous Organic Laws and other resolutions and peace treaty .
It is not possible to have a president over the People and land of the geographical area known as The United States of America (without a perpetual deception),that is not "territory or other property belonging to the United States". or; Citizens of the United States

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

They were very consistent...Those actors were word smiths. They did not leave any mistakes within the documents that they kept, and did not repeal.
Like the the Resolutions of the 23d of April, 1784 was repealed chapter VI of the ORDINANCE OF 1787: THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT

George Washington and all other Presidents of the United States were not true dictators,,,,
They were only pretend dictators by the ignorance of the people.

Trump is not a dictator over the people of the original and perpetual union under the Articles of Confederation.
Not just because he did not ever fill the offices of President or of The United States of America.

But only because the people ignorantly believe that they are citizens of the United States, when the majority of the people of The United States of America are not citizens of the United States because most of them do not live on "territory or other property belonging to the United States."
They're not illegible.


But here is the kicker.

They are happy to take you as a citizen, even if you are not actually illegible.
One just handed your freedom and consent to be governed to a foreign union. :roll:
Voluntary servitude was never abolished.


OH! and did you vote for your new leader and voluntary servitude on the 4th?

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Re: The Constitution cannot apply to the U.S.A.

Post by Logos » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:29 am

Geod Manson wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 am
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "
Most people reading this will believe it says that anyone born anywhere on American soil is a U.S. citizen, and thus subject to all of their territorial laws; that isn't so, of course, nor does it say that. Even if one was born on U.S. territory, one still wouldn't be a U.S. citizen per the Naturalization Act found at 2 Stat. 153, else it would be involuntary servitude, the prohibition of which, absent conviction of a crime, is one of the highest laws on this world. Uncle Sam isn't going there.
Geod Manson wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 am
They are happy to take you as a citizen, even if you are not actually illegible.
One just handed your freedom and consent to be governed to a foreign union. :roll:
Voluntary servitude was never abolished.
Fortunately, in the vast majority of instances that consent to be governed rests on presumptions which may be challenged at any time. Furthermore, to Uncle Sam's credit, even if one is an actual U.S. citizen, there are remedies in place such that one isn't inherently personally liable for settling Uncle's "charges", but that's another matter altogether.

It's funny how they let everyone "elect" to be U.S. citizens via mere attestation when they know relatively very few people have applied and taken the oath therefor. They'd lose much of their illusion of authority in the people's minds, and that's without even getting into the whole scam of them acting as if they have TJ over all of America as we see it on the map.

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Re: The Constitution cannot apply to the U.S.A.

Post by Geod Manson » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:20 am

I know that I have never done, executed, exhausted, perfected, complete, completed, rendered, realized, spent, fulfilled, fixed, concluded, performed, effected, succeeded any of the things required to become a citizen of the United States. Under 2 stat 153 nor under 8 USC
I have never qualified to be eligible to become a citizen/slave.

If I think real hard,, as best I can remember, I would say/guess that I have only been about 20-25, 24 hour days,, if I add up all of the hours total that I have been "in the United States)" territory or other property belonging to the United States of America.", Mostly on BLM or forest service lands (State of California)within the exterior boarders of California (hunting) (in my whole life). The rest of my life has been on "easements, private easements or privately owned lands. (The United States of America)", or on the water __)_........


Also pay special attention to Article 5,, more evidence the legislators knew how to repeal previous documents, acts or "organic Law".
2 stat 153 1802
CHAP. XXVIIL-An Act to establish an uniform rule of Naturalization, and to repeal the acts heretofore passed on that subject.(a)
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That any alien, being a free white person, may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States, or any of them, on the following conditions, and not otherwise
First, That he shall have declared, on oath or affirmation, before the supreme, superior, district or circuit court of some one of the states, or of the territorial districts of the United States, or a circuit or district court of the United States, three years at least, before his admission, that it was, bona fide, his intention to become a citizen of the United States, and to renounce for ever all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty whatever, and particularly, by name, the prince, potentate, state or sovereignty whereof such alien may, at the time, be a citizen or subject.
Secondly, That alien shall, at the time of his application to be admitted, declare on oath or affirmation, before some one of the courts aforesaid, that he will support the constitution of the United States, and that he doth absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty whatever, and particularly, by name, the prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty whereof he was before a citizen or subject; which proceedings shall be recorded by the clerk of the court.
Thirdly, That the court admitting such alien shall be satisfied that he has resided within the United States five years at least, and within the state or territory .where such court is at the time held, one year at least; and it shall further appear to their satisfaction, that during that time, he has behaved as a man of a good moral character, attached to the principles of the constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same :Provided, that the oath of the applicant shall, in no case, be allowed to prove his residence.
Fourthly, That in case the alien, applying to be admitted to citizen- ship, shall have borne any, hereditary title, or been of any of the orders of nobility in the kingdom or state from which he came, he shall, in addition to the above requisites, make an express renunciation of his title or order of nobility in the court to which his application shall be made, which renunciation shall be recorded in the said court : Provided, that no alien who shall be a native citizen, denizen or subject of any country, state or sovereign, with whom the United States shall be at war, at the time of his application, shall be then admitted to be a citizen of the United States : Provided also, that any alien who was residing within the limits, and under the jurisdiction of the United States, before the twenty-ninth day of January, one thousand seven hundred and ninety five, may be admitted to become a citizen, on due proof made to some one of the courts aforesaid, that he has resided two years, at least, within and under the jurisdiction of the United States, and one year, at least, immediately preceding his application, within the state or territory where such court is at the time held; and on his declaring on oath or affirmation, that he will support the constitution of the United States, and that he doth absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity-to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty whatever, and particularly, by name, the prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, whereof he was before a citizen or subject: and moreover, on its appearing to the satisfaction of the court, that during the said term of two years, he has behaved as a man of good moral character, attached to the constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same ; and where the alien, applying for admission to citizenship, shall have borne any hereditary title, or been of any of the orders of-nobility in the kingdom or state from which he came, on his moreover making in the court an express renunciation of his title or order of nobility, before he shall be entitled to such admission: all of which proceedings, required in this proviso to be performed in the court, shall be recorded by the clerk thereof: and provided also, that any alien who was residing within the limits, and under the jurisdiction of the United States, before the twenty-ninth day of January, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-five, may be admitted to become a citizen, on due proof made to some one of the courts aforesaid, that he has resided two years, at least, within and under the jurisdiction of the United States, and one year, at least, immediately preceding his application, within the state or territory, where such court is at the time held; and on his declaring on oath or affirmation, that he will support the United States, and that he doth absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all elegance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, whereof he was before a citizen or subject: and moreover, on its appearing to the satisfaction of the court, that during the said term of two years, he has behaved as a man of good moral character, attached to the constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same: and where the alien, applying for admission to citizenship, shall have borne any hereditary title, or been of any of the orders of nobility in the kingdom or state from which he came, on his moreover making in the court an express renunciation of his title or order of nobility, before he shall be entitled to such admission: all of which proceedings, requires in this proviso to be performed in the court, shall be recorded by the clerk thereof: and provided also, that any alien who was residing within the limits, and under the jurisdiction of the United States at any time between the said twenty-ninth day of January, one-thousand seven hundred and ninety-five, and the eighteenth day of June, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-eight, may, within two years after the passing of this act, be admitted to become a citizen, without a compliance with the first condition above specified.
Sec. 2. Provided also, and be it further enacted, That in addition to the directions aforesaid, all free white persons, being aliens, who may arrive in the United States after the passing of this act, shall, in order to become citizens of the United States, make registry, and obtain certificates, in the following manner, to wit: every person desirous of being naturalized shall, if of the age of twenty-one years, make report- of himself; or if under the age of twenty-one years, or held in service, shall be reported by his parent, guardian, master or mistress, to the clerk of the district court of the district where such alien or aliens shall arrive, or to some other court of record of the United States, or of either of the territorial districts of the same, or of a particular state ; and such report shall ascertain the name, birthplace, age, nation and allegiance of each alien, together with the country whence he or she migrated, and the place of his or her intended settlement: and it shall be the duty of such clerk, on receiving such report, to record the same in 'his office, and to grant to the person making such report, and to each individual concerned therein, whenever he shall be required, a certificate under his band and seal of office of such report and registry ; and for receiving and registering each report of an individual or family, he shall receive fifty cents ; and for each certificate granted pursuant to this act, to an individual or family, fifty cents ; and such certificate shall be exhibited to the court by every alien who may arrive in the United States, after the passing of this act, on his application to be naturalized, as evidence of the time of his arrival within the United States.
Sec . 3. And whereas, doubts have arisen whether certain courts of record in some of the states, are included within the description of district or circuit courts : Be it further enacted, that every court of record in any individual state, having common law jurisdiction, and a seal and clerk or prothonotary, shall be considered as a district court within the meaning-of this act ; and every alien who may have been naturalized in any such court, shall enjoy, from and after the passing of the act, the same rights and privileges, as if he had been naturalized in a district or circuit court if the United States.
Sec. 4.And be it further enacted, that the children of persons duly naturalized under any of the laws of the United States, or who, previous to the passing of any law on that subject, by the government of the United States, may have become citizens of any one of the said states, under the laws thereof, being under the age of twenty-one years, at the time of their parents being so naturalized or admitted to the rights of citizenship, shall, if dwelling in the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States, and the children of persons who now are, or have been citizens of the United States, shall, though born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided, that, the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never resided within the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any state, or has been legally convicted of having joined the army of Great Britain, during the late war, shall be admitted a citizen, as aforesaid without the consent of the legislature of the state in which such person was subscribed.
Sec. 5. And it be further enacted, that all acts heretofore passed respecting naturalization, be, and the same are hereby repealed,
Approved, April 14, 1802.

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Re: The Constitution cannot apply to the U.S.A.

Post by Geod Manson » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:51 am

Logos wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:29 am
Geod Manson wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 am
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "
Most people reading this will believe it says that anyone born anywhere on American soil is a U.S. citizen, and thus subject to all of their territorial laws; that isn't so, of course, nor does it say that. Even if one was born on U.S. territory, one still wouldn't be a U.S. citizen per the Naturalization Act found at 2 Stat. 153, else it would be involuntary servitude, the prohibition of which, absent conviction of a crime, is one of the highest laws on this world. Uncle Sam isn't going there.
Geod Manson wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 am
They are happy to take you as a citizen, even if you are not actually illegible.
One just handed your freedom and consent to be governed to a foreign union. :roll:
Voluntary servitude was never abolished.
Fortunately, in the vast majority of instances that consent to be governed rests on presumptions which may be challenged at any time. Furthermore, to Uncle Sam's credit, even if one is an actual U.S. citizen, there are remedies in place such that one isn't inherently personally liable for settling Uncle's "charges", but that's another matter altogether.

It's funny how they let everyone "elect" to be U.S. citizens via mere attestation when they know relatively very few people have applied and taken the oath therefor. They'd lose much of their illusion of authority in the people's minds, and that's without even getting into the whole scam of them acting as if they have TJ over all of America as we see it on the map.
Of course "voluntary servitude" was never abolished.

What better way to get the populous to volunteer to be a slave by ignorantly claiming to be a citizen of the United States?
When most of them are free! when born. but; then comes the indoctrination to believe that the most wonderful thing to be is a citizen of the United States. Right?

Coerced to come to the "land of the free, home of the brave""The United States of America" but get the bait and switcheroo and get hornswaggled into becoming a citizen of the United States.

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