Jurisdiction in The State of Kentucky.

Here we will discuss where United States and States of United States have territorial jurisdiction to compel obedience to "federal" or "state" law.
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Geod Manson
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Jurisdiction in The State of Kentucky.

Post by Geod Manson » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:32 am

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/sta ... x?id=37026

Kentucky Revised Statutes
KRS Chapter 3

Includes enactments through the 2019 First Extraordinary Session

The KRS database was last updated on 11/23/2019

.010 Consent of state to acquisition of lands.

.020 Jurisdiction retained for execution of process.

.025 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Ashland ceded.

.026 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Fayette County ceded.

.027 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Manchester ceded.

.028 Jurisdiction over federal correctional facilities in McCreary and Martin Counties ceded.

.030 Jurisdiction over military post (Fort Knox) at West Point ceded.

.040 Jurisdiction of military park at Perryville ceded.

.050 Perryville battlefield to be conveyed to the United States.

.060 Zachary Taylor burial grounds ceded.

.070 Jurisdiction of land for Mammoth Cave National Park ceded.

.080 Consent to acquisition of national forest reserves -- Jurisdiction.

.090 General Assembly to be furnished request for cession of jurisdiction of land to United States.

.100 Letter accepting jurisdiction by United States to be entered upon executive journal.

.110 Consent to retrocession of jurisdiction by United States.

Concurrent Legislative Jurisdiction for Criminal Law Enforcement Purposes

.250 Legislative finding.

.255 Definition.

.260 Application by United States for concurrent legislative jurisdiction -- Procedure.

.265 Limitation of jurisdiction ceded.

.270 Relinquishment of legislative jurisdiction by United States -- Acceptance -- Governor's duties.

.275 Consultation with appropriate local authorities.

This reads li Kentucky Revised Statutes
KRS Chapter 3

Includes enactments through the 2019 First Extraordinary Session

The KRS database was last updated on 11/23/2019

.010 Consent of state to acquisition of lands.

.020 Jurisdiction retained for execution of process.

.025 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Ashland ceded.

.026 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Fayette County ceded.

.027 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Manchester ceded.

.028 Jurisdiction over federal correctional facilities in McCreary and Martin Counties ceded.

.030 Jurisdiction over military post (Fort Knox) at West Point ceded.

.040 Jurisdiction of military park at Perryville ceded.

.050 Perryville battlefield to be conveyed to the United States.

.060 Zachary Taylor burial grounds ceded.

.070 Jurisdiction of land for Mammoth Cave National Park ceded.

.080 Consent to acquisition of national forest reserves -- Jurisdiction.

.090 General Assembly to be furnished request for cession of jurisdiction of land to United States.

.100 Letter accepting jurisdiction by United States to be entered upon executive journal.

.110 Consent to retrocession of jurisdiction by United States.

Concurrent Legislative Jurisdiction for Criminal Law Enforcement Purposes

.250 Legislative finding.

.255 Definition.

.260 Application by United States for concurrent legislative jurisdiction -- Procedure.

.265 Limitation of jurisdiction ceded.

.270 Relinquishment of legislative jurisdiction by United States -- Acceptance -- Governor's duties.

.275 Consultation with appropriate local authorities.

Kentucky Revised Statutes
KRS Chapter 3

Includes enactments through the 2019 First Extraordinary Session

The KRS database was last updated on 11/23/2019

.010 Consent of state to acquisition of lands.

.020 Jurisdiction retained for execution of process.

.025 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Ashland ceded.

.026 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Fayette County ceded.

.027 Jurisdiction over federal correctional institution at Manchester ceded.

.028 Jurisdiction over federal correctional facilities in McCreary and Martin Counties ceded.

.030 Jurisdiction over military post (Fort Knox) at West Point ceded.

.040 Jurisdiction of military park at Perryville ceded.

.050 Perryville battlefield to be conveyed to the United States.

.060 Zachary Taylor burial grounds ceded.

.070 Jurisdiction of land for Mammoth Cave National Park ceded.

.080 Consent to acquisition of national forest reserves -- Jurisdiction.

.090 General Assembly to be furnished request for cession of jurisdiction of land to United States.

.100 Letter accepting jurisdiction by United States to be entered upon executive journal.

.110 Consent to retrocession of jurisdiction by United States.

Concurrent Legislative Jurisdiction for Criminal Law Enforcement Purposes

.250 Legislative finding.

.255 Definition.

.260 Application by United States for concurrent legislative jurisdiction -- Procedure.

.265 Limitation of jurisdiction ceded.

.270 Relinquishment of legislative jurisdiction by United States -- Acceptance -- Governor's duties.

.275 Consultation with appropriate local authorities.

This reads like a wet dream.
Now I am aware of two States of_________________. That are so clear where their jurisdiction lies.


But this one is much smaller than California, and has so much less land that it is easier to see where they are claiming territorial jurisdiction over.(about 5.4% territory or other property owned by the United States) The list is so much smaller and easier to see.

Geod Manson
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Re: Jurisdiction in The State of Kentucky.

Post by Geod Manson » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:51 am

If one were to look at the structures of the legislation between The State of California, https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... &article=2. and;
The legislature of the State of Kentucky https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/sta ... x?id=37026

They essentially say the same thing, just in different words.

Here's an easy example
Government Code - GOV
TITLE 1. GENERAL [100 - 7914] ( Title 1 enacted by Stats. 1943, Ch. 134. )

DIVISION 1. SOVEREIGNTY AND PEOPLE OF THE STATE [100 - 275.2] ( Division 1 enacted by Stats. 1943, Ch. 134. )

CHAPTER 1. Sovereignty of the State [100 - 210.6] ( Chapter 1 enacted by Stats. 1943, Ch. 134. )


ARTICLE 2. Territorial Jurisdiction [110 - 127] ( Article 2 enacted by Stats. 1943, Ch. 134. )


110.

The sovereignty and jurisdiction of this State extends to all places within its boundaries as established by the constitution. The extent of such jurisdiction over places that have been or may be ceded to, purchased, or condemned by the United States is qualified by the terms of the cession or the laws under which the purchase or condemnation is made.
(Enacted by Stats. 1943, Ch. 134.)
and;
3.010 Consent of state to acquisition of lands.The Commonwealth of Kentucky consents to the acquisition by the United States of all lands and appurtenances in this state, by condemnation, gift or purchase, which are needful to their constitutional purposes, but said acquisition shall not be deemed to result in a cession of jurisdiction by this Commonwealth.Effective:June 17, 1954History:Amended 1954 Ky. Acts ch. 217, sec. 1, effective June 17, 1954. --Amended 1944 Ky. Acts ch. 173, sec. 1, effective June 13, 1944. --Recodified 1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec. 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky. Stat. secs. 2376, 2376a-1, 2376c-1.

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Re: Jurisdiction in The State of Kentucky.

Post by Logos » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:45 am

This is yet more evidence that one of the Memorandum's conclusions is correct: namely, that they are claiming territorial jurisdiction ONLY over their territory, i.e., "all places and waters, continental or insular" owned by The United States of America. After that it becomes a matter of gov't operators deciding which of their glorified property management companies are to govern/manage particular areas of said territory, e.g., which one is to hold/manage a certain parcel of the Confederacy's forest land within the exterior boundaries of Kentucky--does the job go to State of Kentucky or United States?

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